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Nirupa's avatar
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“No debate” is essentially fascism. Using pseudo moralistic claims to suppress foundational criticism.

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Lorenzo Warby's avatar

Which is not limited to fascism. I agree with your second sentence, however, which is spot on.

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Nirupa's avatar
1dEdited

The reason I mention the neo-commies as fascist is to “redefine” the term and use their own weapon against them.

And the redefinition is actually very easy. It’s one “group identity” considering themselves superior over the others. Use of authoritarian dictates. Just the lack of a “single” dictator, since neo-commies are like street dogs - too stupid to have anyone among them who can become a true dictator and hence it’s a collective tribe like hyenas.

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Rex Landy's avatar

They're just transvestites.

NOBODY is 'trans'. They're mentally ill or perverts, there's nothing else. Trannys have had their fetishes reframed as a civil right due to 'no debate!' and other shit.

If anyone says that to me, I shout back 'Right? NOBODY IS BORN IN THE WRONG BODY. Humans can't change sex! Men are not women, even if you squint. Non-binary is bullshit!'

It's all made up wiffle and the Gender Abattoir relies on the #LifelongPatient model. Trannys need the children to validate their filthy fetishes. I will NEVER kowtow to the men who would be queen or the titless pooner women who creep on gay men.

#FuckYourPronouns the days of 'no debate!' are long fucking gone, troonscum panderers! #XX #AdultHumanFemale there is NOTHING to respect about this pervert's movement sterilising children for feelings in their head. With you.

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Lorenzo Warby's avatar

Trans is a made up identity. Some are transvestites, some are sexual fetishists of other varieties, a small number retreat into the identity of the opposite sex as a result of abuse or other deep trauma. There are various “trans” identities in other/past cultures, so it is clearly a human thing. But yes, we do not have inner gender souls.

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Rex Landy's avatar

Nowhere in my culture (native wahine Maori) or even that of the fa'afafine is there any trans anything - it's mental illness or a fetish. Nothing more.

As for trauma? We all have a sad story; I'm unmoved by this ideology. It's not ancient, nothing about it (trans identities haha no) is embedded in history - transvestites or perverts. The cross dressers or 'third gender' societies that accommodate (mainly) men with their wish to x-dress aren't part of this new ideology.

Gender is made up woo.

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youlian troyanov's avatar

Brilliant

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Ani's avatar

Social alchemy theory has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard about. Amazing the lunacy that gets packaged up nicely by some fancy academic nonsense and gets traction.

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Lorenzo Warby's avatar

Well yes. I have, of course, labelled it in a way that makes its idiocy as transparent as possible. Though my label is also a nod to the Hermetic—we have special, transformative knowledge—and gnostic—we are in all-confining prison—antecedents of this strain of thinking. But the idea really is you bring down oppressive society and the utopia will emerge. It is stunningly stupid and transparently false—unless, of course, you are completely besotted by your Theory, as they are.

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Gunther Heinz's avatar

I once suggested the sebum harvesting is a widespread practice in Southeast Asia, and that the substance is shipped off to Zurich where it is then processed to be used in very high-end skincare cosmetics. Instead of being laughed at, I was taken quite seriously. Give me some vodka straight up and I'll liven any academic dinner party.

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Douglas McClenaghan's avatar

The neatest trick of critical theory is on the one hand claim to be deconstructing, subverting and opposing "power" while simultaneously being brutishly authoritarian, then having people believe this preposterous nonsense.

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steven lightfoot's avatar

Very good and an astute observation. It always seemed to me that the No Debate types were fundamentally authoritarians and bad faith actors (which IS true) its also a manifestation of their desire at dominance. Dominance is the right word here.

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James M.'s avatar

The only way ‘no debate’ could work is if everyone already knew the best path forward. That’s never the case… and I notice that the people who advocate for no debate (or thoughtcrime penalties, or enforced institutional conformity) end up being wrong about an awful lot of things.

https://jmpolemic.substack.com/p/soft-totalitarianism

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Honey M's avatar

It's refreshing to see that there are still people who value debating the issues that you mentioned. However, I have found that once certain people have attained what they perceive to be the moral high ground, even when shown that their beliefs are based on BS, will adhere to them, rather than admit they've been fooled.

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Gunther Heinz's avatar

This is a very good description of what happens AFTER an a peculiar sort of identity is assimilated. That identity can be called NOBLE-GLOBAL, or NOBGLOB, and it exists as an anti-identity to the BOURGEOISE. These are the slobs who have money, sure, but no real culture or good taste - and really don't deserve to have money, yet d -, which can be sooooo aggravating, especially if it's mum or dad, and see no reason for you to go to Bali with your mates.

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