On another example of kinship networks and dysfunctional institutions, see Eric Stetson's book on the toxic family squabbles of Baha'i leaders (late 1800s, to about WW1). The more pro-unitarian (anti-authoritarian, liberal-secular, western) faction, the majority, was marginalized (more or less ex-communicated) by Abdul-Baha, who defended his claim to being the legitimate hereditary leader. Stetson's material shows the inherent authoritarianism and patriarchal nature of kinship group leadership, even in a "reformist" offshoot of Shi'ism that claimed to be seeking "harmony" of spiritual and modern-rational, scientific perspectives. In reality, the authoritarians set in motion a series of events that led to a long decline into increasing fundamentalism. Weirdly, as a persecuted minority religion in Iran, Bahaism became more fundamentalist under the post-revolution national govt of the mullas. (also see Juan Cole's critiques of Bahaism).
This isn't particularly helpful. There was an election. Hamas won, Fatah didn't go peacefully, Hamas killed a bunch of them and took power. What are we missing?
On another example of kinship networks and dysfunctional institutions, see Eric Stetson's book on the toxic family squabbles of Baha'i leaders (late 1800s, to about WW1). The more pro-unitarian (anti-authoritarian, liberal-secular, western) faction, the majority, was marginalized (more or less ex-communicated) by Abdul-Baha, who defended his claim to being the legitimate hereditary leader. Stetson's material shows the inherent authoritarianism and patriarchal nature of kinship group leadership, even in a "reformist" offshoot of Shi'ism that claimed to be seeking "harmony" of spiritual and modern-rational, scientific perspectives. In reality, the authoritarians set in motion a series of events that led to a long decline into increasing fundamentalism. Weirdly, as a persecuted minority religion in Iran, Bahaism became more fundamentalist under the post-revolution national govt of the mullas. (also see Juan Cole's critiques of Bahaism).
Any network war read John Robb
And RAND NETWAR
Who? HAMAS is the Democratically elected government of Gaza.
This answers the question of innocence. < no. Not.
“can a ground invasion destroy such networks?”
Yes. Why yes, it can.
Can it destroy HAMAS and expect it not to regenerate in Gaza?
Probably not.
This isn’t rocket science.
It’s just unfortunate.
Respect their choice, act accordingly.
Not quite what happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gaza_(2007)
This isn't particularly helpful. There was an election. Hamas won, Fatah didn't go peacefully, Hamas killed a bunch of them and took power. What are we missing?
And there hasn’t been an election since.
This is normal democracy Lorenzo. I said Normal, not Pixie 🧚🏿♀️ dust democracy.
Calling it normal doesn’t make it so.
Normal as in Athens to now...
normal as in;
The United States
2020 - ?
USA 1932-1944 (FDR)
India LMAO
Germany 1933
Latin America
Africa
Rome once they got tired of instability.
Mossagedeh Iran had he not been ousted.
Both violence in elections and one man one vote ONCE are normal democracy.
The USA was largely the exception, but that wasn’t “Progressive” enough so...
Normal as in what normally happens.
Not pixie dust / schoolhouse rock. A fairy tale.
It sounds like... democracy?
Real democracy’s often do have violence in elections, always did.
Lorenzo silly HAMAS had to fortify democracy. Plenty of people get killed in for example USA or Indian elections.
incoherent babbling. waste of time.