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Richard Fulmer's avatar

deBoer declares that nations are nothing but imagined communities, but demands justice for Palestine. How does one provide justice for an imaginary community?

Perhaps deBoer means justice for individual Palestinians. If so, doesn’t justice demand that the October 7th murderers pay for their crimes? And what does justice demand for those who abetted and those who are still abetting the murderers?

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This is an excellent essay that hits on a lot of the same criticisms I've made of FdB (in my head). He writes very well, and he has cogent and thoughtful ideas about culture, education, and intra-left politics. But on certain topics, especially foreign policy, his ideas are worse than useless. His Ukraine articles were awful apologias for Russian imperialism, and his articles on Israel/Palestine were similarly bad to the point that I only read bits and pieces. The final straw for me was his mocking and dismissive comments about Oct 7th and his skepticism that widespread rapes occurred. (Why are there so few eyewitnesses, Freddie? Maybe because they were murdered or kidnapped!)

An especially important point of your essay here is the vital role of stability and order, and the degree to which leftists dismiss it. You often read left-wing critiques of US post-war policy towards Germany, including reintegrating former Nazis into the West German government, using former Nazi scientists in NASA, etc. and those things did happen - de-Nazification was far less thorough than most of us would think to be ideal. And yet, in fact, the de-Nazification of West Germany was extremely successful - the fascists who remain in Germany are mostly in the former East Germany. So however amoral US policy was, the ultimate effect was morally good and led to a more peaceful world (no WWIII). Too often, that outcome is simply taken for granted and discounted.

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